tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post2245291166488759342..comments2024-03-11T01:47:38.754-07:00Comments on The World According to AmericanGoy: A little history or are the elites of Israel idiots and what the hell is Hamas anywayAmericanGoyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post-77933000876474186452009-01-10T08:38:00.000-08:002009-01-10T08:38:00.000-08:00Yep, as I guessed, the Dayan quote is also invalid...Yep, as I guessed, the Dayan quote is also invalid. Here is what he said, from a 1969 transcript in Ha'Aretz:<BR/><BR/>" We came to a region of land that was inhabited by Arabs, and we set up a Jewish state. In a considerable number of places, we purchased the land from Arabs and set up Jewish villages where there had once been Arab villages. You don't even know the names [of the previous Arab villages] and I don't blame you, because those geography books aren't around anymore. Not only the books, the villages aren't around. Nahalal was established in the place of Mahalul, and Gvat was established in the place of Jibta, Sarid in the place of Huneifis and Kfar Yehoshua in the place of Tel Shaman. There isn't any place that was established in an area where there had not at one time been an Arab settlement."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post-5464070966367108872009-01-10T08:24:00.000-08:002009-01-10T08:24:00.000-08:00hi, man. first time reading your blog. I'm going...hi, man. first time reading your blog. I'm going to be very critical only because I think you're open to criticism and will consider what i'm going to say.<BR/><BR/>Most of your quotes are invalid, fabricated, or out of context. You're thus distorting the entire conflict in the eyes of your misguided readers:<BR/>*You claim that Ben Gurion said "We must expel Arabs and take their places." This quote was originally reported by the Historian Benny Morris, and later corrected. The <A HREF="http://books.google.com/books?id=Z9J3_buWUL0C&pg=PA251&dq=%22We+must+expel+Arabs+and+take+their+places.%22&ei=0cZoSfeEM4vCMuaM9YsJ&client=firefox-a" REL="nofollow">actual quote</A> was: We do not wish and do not need to expel Arabs and take their place.<BR/><BR/>*"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." According to <A HREF="http://books.google.com/books?id=KrR_00AxrUcC&pg=PA96&dq=Jewish+villages+were+built+in+the+place+of+Arab+villages.+You+do+not+even+know+the+names+of+these+Arab+villages,+and+I+do+not+blame+you+because+geography+books+no+longer+exist.+Not+only+do+the+books+not+exist,+the+Arab+villages+are+not+there+either.+Nahlal+arose+in+the+place+of+Mahlul%3B+Kibbutz+Gvat+in+the+place+of+Jibta%3B+Kibbutz+Sarid+in+the+place+of+Huneifis%3B+and+Kefar+Yehushua+in+the+place+of+Tal+al-Shuman.+There+is+not+a+single+place+built+in+this+country+that+did+not+have+a+former+Arab+population.&ei=6MhoSfrjPJicMqjs6MkK&client=firefox-a#PPA96,M1" REL="nofollow">Mersheimer and Walt</A> this was said by Moshe Dayan. Who said your quote, then? (I'm not sure what their source for this quote is, by the way.. I'm interested though.. as I remember this one being misquoted elsewhere the same way.) <BR/><BR/>*"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country." I read fateful triangle and I saw this quote also. I actually emailed Chomsky myself and he pointed me to a pro-palestinian source who provided the quote. No one except this pro-palestinian source has witnessed the primary source document which they're talking about. So I doubt this quote was ever said, or ever said in the way it was.<BR/><BR/>*The Herzl quote I can only find with ellipsis, and only on anti-zionist sites and messageboards. Have you read his diary? What is your secondary source?<BR/><BR/>"(imagine if a European commission decided to give Mexican immigrants to the USA Washington and its surrounding areas - bet there would be some reaction from the 'natives'?)."<BR/><BR/>This is not a valid comparison. Israel is an ancestral homeland to the Jews, Washington DC is not an ancestral homeland to the Mexicans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post-39855729134477315032009-01-09T00:26:00.000-08:002009-01-09T00:26:00.000-08:00I would have loved to have seen someone ask Wolf(i...I would have loved to have seen someone ask Wolf(ie) Blitzer if there should be a white homeland anywhere on earth, no matter how remote (think the furthest Siberia). <BR/><BR/><BR/>That Blitzer footage was really eye-opening, but since Les Moonves is Golda Meir's grand-nephew, these things shouldn't be suprising. <BR/><BR/>There is not going to be an end to the fighting over there in our lifetime. We will be "involved" in this dispute at the loss of treasure and blood and peace for the next 100 years for certain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post-44859255999698436542009-01-07T08:42:00.000-08:002009-01-07T08:42:00.000-08:00С Новым Годом!|Happy New Year!С Новым Годом!|Happy New Year!kozeolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17546231108702109298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post-86294376117807929532009-01-06T16:24:00.000-08:002009-01-06T16:24:00.000-08:00Hi gojka,Witam na moim blogu / welcome to my blog....Hi gojka,<BR/><BR/>Witam na moim blogu / welcome to my blog.AmericanGoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post-32561359810452265042009-01-06T16:23:00.000-08:002009-01-06T16:23:00.000-08:00Mr. Payne...I warned you that this was a long arti...Mr. Payne...<BR/><BR/>I warned you that this was a long article, even by my standards.<BR/><BR/>Sorry, but if you want soundbites, CNN and FOX are a click of a button away.<BR/><BR/>"it seems like you know your stuff." - well, research this for yourself. Google is a wonderful tool and so easy to use. Do not trust me or any mass media - do the research for yourself.<BR/><BR/>I believe that the written word, especially on the internet with the ability to embed other media, such as TV reports, is superior to the "for idiots, by idiots" "news" shows on American TV.<BR/><BR/>Michael, if you did not do it yet, check out Mr. Phillip Weiss' blog and also Mr. Silverstein's blog (a righteous zionist guy if there ever was one), two of my heroes of the internet.AmericanGoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post-86056572554190849012009-01-06T13:22:00.000-08:002009-01-06T13:22:00.000-08:00Zionism brings shame to Judaism and American gover...Zionism brings shame to Judaism and American government brings shame to us.<BR/>We'll have to pay for their mistakes.<BR/><BR/>Pozdrawiam rodaka :)Amerykansko-Polskiego Goja.<BR/><BR/>gojkaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513679299375736828.post-26058079317959526372009-01-05T23:06:00.000-08:002009-01-05T23:06:00.000-08:00I got through the first third or so of your post a...I got through the first third or so of your post and felt as though I'd run a marathon.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'll take another stab at it later - it seems like you know your stuff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com